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How the Eagles’ Jen Kavanagh Makes Marketing Fly with Fans

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The Philadelphia Eagles SVP of Marketing, Jen Kavanagh, shared her approach to expanding the club’s brand and engaging with a now international fan base. Get insights on how Jen’s marketing team is turning the Xs and Os of this pro NFL team into dollars and cents and fan xoxos!

Grab a seat. Jen Kavanagh tells Insider Interviews host E.B. Moss how marketing the Eagles has changed since their appearance in the #SuperBowl, and the imperative of balancing the star power of individual players with promoting the brand overall. It always comes back, Jen says, to connecting with fans and building relationships that are not just “transactional”. Hear how she strives to build relationships with the club’s 10 million global fans — from watch parties to cause marketing in their home town of Philly.

Also:

  • Jen’s journey is a testament to the idea that not all careers are linear and staying open is key in this marketing game. She began in digital, working on multi-platform strategies and translating that into a television environment when she worked for NBCU’s Oxygen. She then worked as a consultant, helping C-suite executives better understand how the coming digital disruption would impact their businesses.
  • Given her lack of specific experience in sports, Jen was initially hesitant to tackle the role, but she leveraged that deep experience in digital marketing and what was zero experience in sports marketing, has gone to overseeing strategic development, original content, digital platforms, community relations, media, data, and insights for the NFL club. And, in five years the passion she developed for the game has turned in to “an obsession.”
  • Jen explains how her marketing team supports the football team — from events at their beloved stadium, “The Linc”, to tackling appropriate messaging and promotions from the US to the newly added countries of the franchise: Ghana, Australia, and New Zealand.
    • For example, they’ve brought in well-known music artists popular in those areas to entertain fans during games and make cultural connections. The team has organized watch parties and flag football pursuits; for New Zealand, E.B. suggested they may need to train U.S. players in the haka!
  • What goes into the decision to feature certain players – like super star Jalen Hurts (and hear about his new graduate degree OFF the field!) vs team initiatives.
    • Hint: they’re driven by the marketing message that the Eagles want to share. For example, if the team wants to highlight leadership, they will focus on the team’s captains. If they want to showcase the experience of being a rookie in the NFL, they will focus on newly drafted players. And if they want to highlight a particular cause, they will find players who authentically align with that cause.
  • She’s buoyed by how both the NFL and the club value the contribution of women and believe in diversity of thought and POVs.
  • Jen and E.B. also discuss the Eagles’ pro-social efforts, such as:

Finally, social media marketers will appreciate how they’ve tapped into @YouTube and TikTok to grow new audiences and fans.

 

 

And of course E.B. asks Jen if she was involved in getting #TaylorSwift to proclaim her fandom for the Eagles and reveal that her lyric was about the team!

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Key Moments:

[00:01:32] Taylor Swift’s Eagles fandom!

[00:04:05] Non-linear career paths can lead to great new opportunities

[00:08:30] Overview of marketing the Philadelphia Eagles pre- and post-SuperBowl™ !

[00:11:47] Creating cultural connections with new football fans in Ghana, New Zealand and

[00:18:05] Eagles’ brand purpose — including Eagles Autism Foundation fundraising and sustainability (Go Green!)

[00:20:15] Home town help to curtail gun violence in the Philadelphia area

[00:25:22] YouTube and TikTok strategies and content development.

[00:28:36] Girls’ access to sports bras to support their pursuit of the sport and the power of women in sports, like star agent, #NicoleLynn

[00:32:12] Leadership success and team support (and memorializing Jen’s invite to E.B.!)

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Why Nicolle Pangis Recommends Balanced TV Advertising and a Balanced Home Life

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Nicolle Pangis is an evangelizer of balance: between linear and digital television advertising, between tech and creative, between quality data and privacy. And balance between work and life. It’s the “ands” that drive her – apropos the company name of TV ad sales platform, Ampersand, where she has been CEO for the past five years.

Insider Interviews podcast host E.B. Moss spoke with Pangis about a range of topics impacting the ad and marketing industry: from the latest advances in media measurement to the importance of embracing retail media networks. Additionally, this fast-moving leader who previously headed up digital shop 24/7 and GroupM’s Xaxis,  discussed the ah-ha moments that sparked a commitment to promoting greater work-life balance for both she and her team, and building a more equitable industry.

A perfect lead in to this conversation? You’ll hear first from More Labs VP of Marketing, Lydia Boychuk, who walks us through how she drives trial and word of mouth — or “sips to lips” — for their nutritional supplement start up company focused on well-being. Boychuk discusses how she balances retail and DTC marketing with podcast advertising. Speaking of which, “sleep better,” “focus more,” and prevent that post-partying head with 20% off any purchase, thanks to Lydia.

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In the ever-evolving world of TV advertising, Ampersand stands out as the biggest company you’ve never heard of. With the ability to aggregate and activate data on a household level, their potential for creative and technical implementations is vast. But with the industry becoming more fragmented, can they navigate the challenges ahead and continue to deliver relevance without crossing the line into creepiness? Find out in this thought-provoking conversation, which is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolving landscape of television advertising and marketing in general…and personal well-being!

Relevancy of advertising is good; a creepiness factor is bad. – Nicolle Pangis

Timestamped summary of this episode:

  • Introduction and how to support Insider Interviews at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal
  • Insider Interviews podcast host E.B. Moss first speaks briefly with VP Marketing of More Labs, Lydia Boychuk on DTC, Retail Media, and growing awareness for nutritional supplement start-up, More Labs.
  • Then, featured guest Nicolle Pangis, CEO of Ampersand, discusses the latest advances in media measurement to the importance of embracing retail media networks including:
  • 00:16:51 – The Challenge of Measuring Television
  • 00:19:20 – The Importance of Linear Television
  • 00:22:02 – The Power of Television in Attribution
  • 00:24:42 – Technical Creative Implementations
  • 00:29:17 – The Future of Advertising & perceptions of AI and Social Media
  • Additionally, Pangis discusses her Journey to C-Suite
  • 00:41:45 – Wellness & Work-Life Balance
  • 00:44:56 – Leadership & Empathy & Purpose
  • 00:51:11 – Ampersand’s Company Culture
  • 00:54:21 – Changing How TV is Bought: Pangis’ hopes for how to get better at buying television and embrace new ways to do so.
  • Finally, Industry Projections and Pangis’ commitment to promoting work-life balance, building a more equitable industry, and her personal growth as CEO.

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Museum of Ice Cream’s CMO with the Scoop on Tasteful Marketing

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Since Insider Interviews is about giving you the “insider’s scoop” on media and marketing, who better to give us the scoop than the CMO of Museum of Ice Cream, Erin Levzow? In today’s world, we’re often so focused on work, responsibilities, and obligations that we forget to take time to have fun and experience joy. Levzow explains how MOIC became an in-demand destination for reconnecting with your inner child, or with your children, and eat ice cream while doing it! Learn from someone whose job it is to market fun about why joy is so important, mentally and physically. And learn how just raising your hand can spark success.

Levzow, whose years of experience marketing everything from Caesars to Del Taco have earned her scores of awards, explains how the museum, under the Figure Eight umbrella, was created by Maryellis Bunn, another inspiring woman who wouldn’t take no for an answer: If that sounds childish, well, Bunn had the last laugh, with lines around the block on any given day. Levzow was cut from similar cloth, even citing a favorite book about improv that preaches the power of saying “Yes, and.” The plucky CMO explains how she applied “yes” throughout her career, even at times when she didn’t “know.”

Moss with panelists: Kaye, OK Cupid, Levzow, MOIC, Benders, B Code Media, Bethea, Danone
Levzow’s route to this C-suite, a year after winning a “40 Under 40” award, started by first saying yes to half a dozen different gigs and residing in as many states, often with toddlers in tow. She describes her leadership philosophy and how she guides teams with her brand of can-do motivation. She also mentions her love of dance and ballroom competitions.
What she doesn’t mention is the personal hurdle she survived just after landing her Museum of Ice Cream role: her husband took a near fatal fall in their home and was actually pronounced dead three times before making it out of ICU. Through it all, Levzow applied her own can-do attitude to him – and to her own spirit – always believing and encouraging he would not just walk again, but thrive. As a post-note, she recently shared a video of his first time back on the dance floor six months later, if a halting version of the Rumba. That was joy.

Here’s a topline of our conversation flow:

00:1:55 What’s an “experium”? How and why this combo museum and experience center unites and inspires throughout the entire MoIC portfolio, down to the marketing

00:03:43 On the importance of experiencing joy together.

00:05:05 How a banana forest can lead to mental and physical health. “We want people to set their phones down and look at each other and play together.”… And what dopamine means to the brand.

00:09:00 The personal side: Dancing during her downtime and working her way to the C-Suite

00:11:12 Career experience and advice based on “Figure it out, volunteer, and learn it.”

00:15:30 How a brick and mortar got built, survived and thrived: “Coming out of the pandemic people really needed connection. We welcome everyone and attract a lot of families and young adults (on a date night), as well as tourists.”

00:18:46 Using data to “target for good” not evil: “People don’t mind giving as long as they’re receiving something in return.… A company that sells ice cream, let’s say (!), can target mothers with children who may be looking for something to do during vacation time. By showing them ads for this idea, we could help them bond with their children and provide an enjoyable experience. Data-driven targeting can also be used to target tourists who may be visiting a certain area, helping them have a great experience while visiting the area.”

00:20:20 The media methodology for Museum of Ice Cream (a la podcasting?!) “We do keep an eye on what’s emerging but …we’re very particular about where we spend our time because it is about resources. You can’t be everything to everyone, even though everyone is welcome… and we are an immersive brand, so seeing pictures or video helps explain to someone who may not have any idea what the museum of ice cream is. … And we track and tag everything.”

00:23:30: Is the metaverse a “thing” for MoIC yet?

00:25:10 – Partnerships – from creating a Kendra Scott mini-museum outpost of “Bananas and Baubles” to Black History Month with Ida’s, a local Black-owned ice cream shop, the Wishingrad’s Three Wishes cereal being a “no-brainer.”

Kendra Scott x Museum of Ice Cream – South Congress Back Room

00:28:29 Brand purpose must be genuine. –  “Don’t say you’re for everyone. Show you’re for everyone. We want to make sure you can see yourself in our advertising. …We often check ourselves and make sure we’re doing the things we set out to do and are true to ourselves.”

00:30:38 Employing and encouraging Radical Candor – the right way  — “It is a true form of empathy: if I tell you where you’re at and let me tell you what I’m seeing and let’s talk that through…. I’m never just being direct without being behind them pushing…or catching them. People did that for me. …And I believe that radical candor also works both ways. As a leader, I want my team to be able to provide me with feedback as well.”

0033:25 – A shout how to Bobby Shaw as one mentor example

00:34:48 Advice on pushing oneself up the hill – especially for women: “Raise your hand. Learn it! Don’t be afraid to ask questions and take risks. Don’t be afraid to make mistakes. I always said, “yes” and then figured it out. You build your career that way. Our founder said, ‘I’m going to build this…’ even when people said she couldn’t. And look at us today.”

00:36:20 The most important question: Favorite flavor!

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Westwood One’s Pierre Bouvard on Making Good Audio Impressions

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Pierre Bouvard has some words of wisdom for media buyers out there…if you’re not buying audio (yes, all audio), you’re leaving reach and engagement on the table. As Chief Insights Officer at Cumulus Media/Westwood One, Pierre has seen the proof and has busted the myths surrounding audio advertising—and particularly the misconceptions about AM/FM radio.

“Radio is perceived as much smaller than it really is. But the data tells us that ad-supported AM-FM streaming is actually bigger than ad-supported Pandora and Spotify combined. That blows people away.”

After stints at Coleman Insights and TiVo, he has become the audio industry’s most revered evangelist and research mind. Now leading Westwood One’s full-service advisory—the Audio Active Group—he provides advertisers with media planning recommendations, creative best practices, and measurement services.

This episode will certainly delight the research aficionados—and may just convince the audio skeptics. We also dig into:

  • What we mean when we say ‘audio.’ Pierre breaks down the composition of the entire audio universe.
  • Tactical scoop about media planning tactics and why an omnichannel approach works best.
  • What the heck is ‘eyes on glass’ and what does it tell us about the effectiveness of TV?
  • Pierre’s pragmatic POV on brand purpose reminds brands to go back to basics.
  • While he does a lot of work recommending media, he drops some facts on why creative trumps everything.
  • Why it’s time for advertisers to stop testing and start committing budgets to podcast advertising. (Learn about the “5% rule”!)

Plus, hear the story of how Pierre ‘broke the internet’ and E.B.’s voice impression of Bette Midler… Just sayin’.

This was a fun (and extremely informative) conversation. I hope this inspires you to learn more about the power of audio advertising.

Mentioned in this episode:

Dig into these findings on sonic branding

Check out the Audio Active blog from Westwood One

Learn more about Edison’s Share of Ear. 

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Mary Baglivo on Leadership and Building Brands on Purpose

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How an unconventional journey to the C-suite of major ad agencies led to finding personal brand purpose

I remember Mary Baglivo in our Rutgers days as fun but focused. Yup, there are stories I can tell. But the stories we focus on in this episode are how she turned her intellectual curiosity, which skewed more to classes in Art History than Business, into a career that included running three major ad agencies and earning innumerable industry accolades.

An aspiring writer trying to make it in New York, Mary took a job at an ad agency. While learning on the go she caught the advertising bug, so much so that she moved from Madison Avenue to grad school followed by an ad agency gig in the Windy City that she couldn’t refuse.
That determination, and a knack for helping develop distinctive ad campaigns and insight-based marketing strategies, was recognized pretty quickly and helped her thrive in a male-dominated industry. She ultimately held President and C-level positions at leading global advertising agencies like JWT, Saatchi & Saatchi, and Euro RSCG Chicago.

“Defining a ‘brand’ is challenging. Clarifying your own brand is super important. A brand is more than its product attributes, obviously. It’s more than what it looks like. It’s certainly more than what an influencer portrays. It’s definitely got to be emotional, and probably involve all the senses in some way, shape, or form.”

After years of developing consumer brands like credit cards and cereal, Mary found her personal brand purpose – using her marketing expertise to help universities, museums, and foundations communicate their purpose.   Now, in addition to running the Baglivo Group – with a focus on key client Pace University – she is a sitting board member for multiple organizations, including the New York Women’s Foundation, and is intent on lifting up other women in business!

“The key job of a CEO is to make sure that their people are feeling good, are happy and motivated, and have the opportunities to learn.”

Mary and I dig into:

  • An explanation of brand purpose and how it differs from but informs brand identity
  • The moving target elements today of a solid brand campaign
  • The increased consumer mandate for purpose and ESG and the question of how/if that can be marketed
  • Can a person be a “brand” and how that applies to good leadership.
  • The best advice she received as a leader
  • How observing and working for people like “the most powerful woman in advertising,” Charlotte Beers, shaped her own leadership style and career
  • Her work with the Block and its impact on diversity messaging through art
  • The time and place for AI – yes, even in classrooms.

Mentioned in this episode:

Check out the Baglivo Group

Find out more about The New York Women’s Foundation and their upcoming Celebrating Women Breakfast 2023

Learn more about the Block Museum

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Ringing out the Old with News from E.B. for 2022

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For the past 44 episodes of Insider Interviews I’ve put a lot of well-known media and marketing folks in the hot seat …And today’s guest is … E.B. Moss. Me. Because as we ring out the old and ring in the new I’ve got some news for you.

This nice round number, episode 45, will be temporarily one of the last for Insider Interviews for a while, as I embrace something really new. A fractional (year long) assignment as Senior Vice President of Content and Community at Brand Innovators. They create a community for marketers and and media folks through an incredible number of events and panel discussions, fireside chats, activations, tent poles, content articles, you name it.

In looking back to look forward, as I wrote in The Continuum recently, I had some wonderful conversations. After launching with programming pro, Gary Krantz, talking about audio and the evolution of radio and podcasting my very next episode was in March of 2020 was Shelly Palmer, the pundit, who accurately predicted that we all better have our tech set up well to work from home. Check.

In episode 7, Claude Silver, the Chief Heart Officer of Vayner Media, emphasized the need in our increasingly isolated environment to build relationships. And then Arra Yerganian educated us in episode 22, about the social determinants of health as we’re so impacted by our surroundings. (I hope you’re creating a safe space for yourself and finding ways to bring joy into your world, even as we have to isolate a little bit longer now.)
On the DEI front Robyn Streisand, founder of The Mixx, is doing a terrific job at educating brands on how to embrace diverse communities and market authentically. And then, hats off to KoAnn Skrzyniarz, for building Sustainable Brands and emphasizing brand purpose and the business value of embracing sustainability and purpose-driven messaging.
Talk about influencers.
That’s what Danielle Wiley of Sway did and really informed us about how to manage what’s been influential and what hasn’t. And it all kind comes together with Joe Jackman in episode 37, talking about reinvention. Because that’s what we’re all doing these days. Marc Kidd and Anna Bager each talked about the out of home ad industry and their headaches during a time when nobody was traveling. Captivate, where Marc is CEO, specialized in elevator advertising, and no one was going into office buildings! So they figured out how to pivot — or reinvent — by expanding their signage to places where people play and live like golf courses and apartment buildings. Anna Bager talked about how out of home signage really helped move public service messaging forward, especially with the healthcare messaging that is so important these days.
There were also some really impactful conversations with women in marketing. I want to thank, for example, Melissa Grady, the CMO of Cadillac, as well as Heidi Zak, the co-founder and CEO of third love, as just two examples.
And I was able to do articles on both of them for The Continuum. That’s the publication where I was editor in chief for the past year. We published some excellent articles about the need for both brand and demand marketing. That publication will continue to embrace the future. And it’s a very worthy read.
But I think as I look forward, and look back, some of Ruth Steven’s words were exactly right and underscores why my move to Brand Innovators will be so timely. Ruth is one of the foremost experts in B2B marketing.

And she said in our interview,

“Today, the ability of the salesperson to guide a purchase in the buyer’s direction and really understand the needs of that buyer has been eroded. So the marketer needs to step in and provide the educational content.”

So my friends, I’m going to keep finding lots of ways to help marketers get their message out and to help connect the seller, the buyer, the media organization and the marketer, and I look forward to being able to continue delivering you that insider scoop. Just from a different venue.
With that, I wish you all the very, very best and a happy and especially a healthy 2022, and hope to maintain my relationship with all of you through various forms of content, as well as hopefully at in-person event sooner rather than later.
I thank you so much for listening.
Post Script: If you haven’t heard it yet, I will pick up my “passion podcast” soon – about my “friends in high places” so please subscribe to It’s Quite a Living now to not miss a forthcoming moment when that relaunches in early 2022.
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